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Used to go up and down the river in his steamboat. My mammy was a Cherokee slave, and talked it good. He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. One time old Master and another man come and took some calves off and Pappy say old Master taking dem off to sell I didn't know what sell meant and I ast Pappy is he going to bring em back when he git through selling them. There was a big dinner bell in the yard. After the Removal, Joseph Vann was chosen the first Assistant Chief of the united Cherokee Nation under the new 1839 Constitution that was created in Indian Territory (Oklahoma), serving with Principal Chief John Ross. That house was on the place my papa said he bought from Billy Jones in 1895. Right after the War, de Cherokees that had been wid the South kind of pestered the freedmen some, but I was so small dey never bothered me; jest de grown ones. He born at Spring Place, Georgia on February 11, 1798. Family Tree Profile Timeline John B. When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. Its got a buokeys and a lead bullet in it. Im glad the wars over and I am free to meet God like anybody else, and my grandchildren can learn to read and write. Robert Hicks ("Who went to live with the Indians") was born 1720 in Albermarle, Sussex, Virginia. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. Old Master Joe had a big steam boat he called the Lucy Walker, and he run it up and down the Arkansas and the Mississippi and the Ohio river, old Mistress say. We settled down a little ways above Fort Gibson. Yes Lord Yes. There was five hundred slaves on that plantation and nobdy ever lacked for nothing. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. He would sing for us, and I'd like to hear them old songs again! People just go and help themselves, till they couldn't eat no mo! The impressive house reportedly stood on a plantation of nearly 600 acres which was tended by some 400 black slaves "Rich Joe" Vann owned. McLoughlin, William, Cherokee Renascence in the New Republic, Princeton University Press, (1986), ISBN 0691047413. Snow on the ground and the water was muddy and all full of pieces of ice. Lots of bad things have come to me, but the good Father, high up, He take care of me. Tall and slim and handsome. James Madison Sr. Vann 1809-1865. My parents are both dead now--seems like fifty, maybe sixty year ago. At least twenty-five of Vann's slaves participated in the Cherokee slave revolt of 1842. Chief Crazy James Vann James Clement Vann) Vann, Ii, <<Private>> Vann, Ii. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. The first time I married was to Clara Nevens, and I wore checked wool pants, and a blue striped cotton shirt. After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. Lord no, he didn't. When they gave a party in the big house, everything was fine. 29 November 2015. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/black-genealogy/slave-narrative-of-b - Last updated on Aug 24th, 2012, VANN SLAVES REMEMBER 2003 By Herman McDaniel Murray County Museum. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. There'd be a whole wagon-load of things come and be put on the tree. Every dollar she make on the track, I give it to Lucy." Oh they was good. They wasn't very big either, but one day two Cherokees rode up and talked a long time, then young Master came to the cabin and said they were sold because mammy couldn't make them mind him. Jacob Vann found in U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Jacob Vann found in Tennessee, Marriage Records, 1780-2002 Jacob Vann found in U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Jacob Vann found in 1850 United States Federal Census People with similar attributes to Red Hawk Vann Women came in satin dresses, all dressd up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. At least twenty-five of Vann's slaves participated in the Cherokee slave revolt of 1842. Joseph Vann family tree Family tree Explore more family trees Parents Chief James Clement Vann 1765 - 1809 Margaret Peggy Scott 1783 - 1845 Wrong Joseph Vann ? In 1730, Sir Alexander Cuming, an emissary of King George II, conferred the title of Emperor on Chief Moytoy at Tellico, Tennessee. Seem like it take a powerful lot of fighting to rid the country of them Rebs. He didn't want em to imagine he give one more than he give the other. He'd take us and enjoy us, you know. Sometimes I eat my bread this morning none this evening. The most Vann families were found in USA in 1880. Correction Note: The preceding comments by the interviewer incorrectly depicts the relationship between the family members. We had a good song I remember. Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. Yes I was! Someone rattled the bones. When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. In 1829 Clement Vann told General Coffee that he was 83 years old and had been in the Cherokee nation for fifty years.Therefore it is highly unlikely that he could have been the father of the Cherokee Chief, James Vann b 1766, well before Clement Vann entered the Cherokee nation. The 1860 Census records for Oklahoma (the last Census of the slavery era), indicates that the Cherokees held 4,600 Negro slaves; the Chickasaws owned 975; the Choctaws owned, 2,344; the Creeks held 1,532; and the Seminoles reportedly owned 500. Old Master had some kind of business in Fort Smith, I think cause he used to ride into dat town about every day on his horse. They spun the cottons and wool, weaved it and made cloth. It made my Master mad, but dey didn't belong to him no more and he couldn't say nothing. Old Master and Mistress kept on asking me did de night riders persecute me any but dey never did. Lucinda Vann tells an unusual story of plantation life from the perspective of a house slave who was born with privileges. Marster had a big Christmas tree, oh great big tree, put on the porch. Joseph Vann, Principal Chief was born on month day 1798, at birth place, to James Ti-ka-lo-hi "Crazy" Clement Vann and Nancy 'Nannie' Vann (born Brown). He sold one of my brothers and one sister because they kept running off. When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. Yes Lord Yes. He is indeed of warm temper, but who can gain his love, which is no hard task, has gained all, and we have no doubt that with reasonable management, he may be made a very useful man.". Joseph, 11 years old, was in the room when his father, James, was murdered, in Buffingtons Tavern in 1809 near the site of the family-owned ferry. Others were returned to their owners. Birth 1735 - Cherokee, Chowan, North Carolina, United States. When the war come they have a big battle away west of us, but I never see any battles. He would tell em plain before hand, "Now no trouble." That was sort of vault, where the family valuables was kept. He had apparently been attending the horse races at Louisville, KY. Vann, Joseph H., Cherokee Rose: On Rivers of Golden Tears, 1st Books Library (2001), ISBN 0-75965-139-6. Christmas morning marster and missus come out on the porch and all the colored folks gather around. Sometimes there was high waters that spoiled the current and the steamboast could't run. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. Well, I'll tell you, you pull it out from the wall something like a shelf. I don't know what he done after that. He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky and back. He would tell em plain before hand, "Now no trouble." When the last of the Cherokees were forcibly moved west in 1838, government records indicate that 1,592 black slaves were moved to Indian Territory with their owners. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. It's on records somewhere; old Seneca Chism and his family. Seneca Chism was my father. Chief James Clement Vann family tree Parents John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann 1735 - 1815 Wahli Wa-wli Aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan 1751 - 1815 Spouse (s) The spring time give us plenty of green corn and beans too. James Vann was a powerful chief in the Cherokee Nation and had several other wives and children. 4. There was lots of preserves. My mother was seamstress. Mammy went to a mean old man named Pepper Goodman and he took her off down de river, and pretty soon Mistress tell me she died cause she can't stand de rough treatment. He passed away on 4 Apr 1770 in Bertie, North Carolina, United States. I had a brother named Harry who belonged to the Vann family at Tahlequah. Geni requires JavaScript! The white folks go first and after they come out, the colored folks go in. He tell us for we start, what we must say and what to do. Pappys name was Kalet Vann, and mammys name was Sally. Thompson, mixed blood Cherokee Indian, but before that pappy had been owned by three different master; one was the Rich Joe Vann who lived down at Webber Falls and another was Chief Lowery of the Cherokees. Dey was all wid the south, but dey was a lot of dem Pin Indians all up on de Illinois River and dey was wid de North and dey taken it out on de slave owners a lot before de War and during it too. I had on my old clothes for the wedding, and I aint had any good clothes since I was a little slave girl. He sure stood good with de Cherokee neighbors we had, and dey all liked him. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. I dont know about Robert Lee, but I know about Lees Creek. Death 06 May 1815 - Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, USA. Please join us. Another time his officer give him a message; he was on his way to deliver it when the enemy spy him and cry out to stop, but father said he kept on going until he was shot in the leg. Some of these slaves served as crew members of Vann's steamboat, a namesake of his favorite race horse "Lucy Walker". Old Master Joe was a big man in the Cherokees, I hear, and was good to his negroes before I was born. This CHEROKEE index was pre-built so it loads quickly. Mistress try to get de man to tell her who de negro belong to so she can buy him, but de man say he can't sell him and he take him on back to Texas wid a chain around his two ankles. She married as her second husband, Thomas Mitchell. Click here for live data and advanced tools for collaboration, genetic genealogy, surname projects, etc. Although he was born after slavery had ended, Nave's remembrances of what his father had told him about slavery days include some interesting details. He come from across the water when he was a little boy, and was grown when old Master Joseph Vann bought him, so he never did learn to talk much Cherokee. I had a silver dine on it, too, for a long time, but I took it off and got me a box of snuff. She had some land close to Catoosa and some down on Greenleaf Creek. Everybody laugh and was happy. They had fine furniture that Marster Vann had brought home in a steamboat from far away. Couldn't nobody go there, less they turn the key. He was a slave on the Chism plantation, but came to Vann's all the time on account of the horses. Marster and missus never allowed chillun to meddle in the big folks business. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Fall.s Don't know where the other one lived. One day young Master come to the cabins and say we all free and cant' stay there lessn we want to go on working for him just like we'd been for our feed, an clothes. sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph H Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robe Chief James Clement Ii Vann, Elizabeth (Go-sa-du-i-sga) Vann (born Thornton), Sarah "sallie" Vann Nicholson Or Buzzard Trapper (born Vann), Feb 11 1798 - Spring Place, Georgia, Old Cherokee Nation East, United States, Oct 23 1844 - Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky, United States, Chief James Vann, Ii, Nannie Vann (born Brown), Feb 11 1798 - Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evening's and make wooden spoons out of maple. We left de furniture and only took grub and tools and bedding and clothes, cause they wasn't very big wagons and was only single-yoke. Us Cherokee slaves seen lots of green corn shootings and de like of dat but we never had no games of our own. Marster had a little race horse called "Black Hock" She was all jet black, excepting three white feet and her stump of a tail. The following slave narratives all mention the Vanns. The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. One year later my sister Phyllis was born on the same place and we been together pretty much of the time ever since, and I reckon dere's only one thing that could separate us slave born children. Margaret Peggy Vann 1796-1857. They brought it home and my granmother knew it was Joe's. After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. In de second year of de War he sold my mammy and my aunt dat was Uncle Joe's wife and my two brothers and my little sister. Women came in satin dresses, all dressed up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. Everybody was happy. Our clothes was home-made---cotton in the summer, mostly just a long-tailed shirt and no shoes, and wood goods in the winter. Dat was one poor negro dat never go away to de North and I was sorry for him cause I know he must have had a mean master, but none of us Sheppard negroes, I mean the grown ones, tried to get away. It look lots of clothes for all them slaves. He related an unpleasant encounter with "Little Joe" Vann, son of "Rich Joe" Vann. We had to have a pass to go any place to have signing or praying, and den they was always a bunch of patrollers around to watch everything we done. John Trader U Wa Ni Vann family tree Parents Holesqua Chief Cornstalk Vann 1628 - 1740 Sarah Ann Champion 1665 - Unknown Spouse (s) Mary Wa' Li' Cherokee King-vann 1690 - 1770 Mammy say they was lots of excitement on old Master's place and all the negroes mighty scared, but he didn't sell my pappy off. Everybody laugh and was happy. When crop was laid by de slaves jest work round at dis and dat and keep tol'able busy. Family tree. When the War come they have a big battle away west of us, but I never see any battles. There was a big church. He passed away on 21 Feb 1809 in Shot at Buffington Tavern, GA, USA. Perhaps because they had observed the prosperity so often achieved by slave-holding whites, Indians of mixed-blood were more apt to own slaves. JOHN BOWLES, SR, CHIEF (_____1) was born Abt. A whole half of ribs sold for twenty-five cents. I was born after the War, about 1868, and what I know 'bout slave times is what my pappa told me, and maybe that not be very much. Johnson Thompson's father had been owned by "Rich Joe" Vann. Vashti Mariah Vann 1805-1888. My mother Betsy Vann, worked in the big house for the missus. Of course, all slaves were officially freed during the Civil War. Do you know what I am going to do? Young Master Joe let us have singing and be baptised if we want to, but I wasnt baptized till after the war. I never did see my daddy excepting when I was a baby and I only know what my mammy told me about him. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. He never seen them neither. The astounding details of his life are well-recorded in books like The House at Diamond Hill [1] He inherited property from his . We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. Doublehead's last wife was Nancy Drumgoole. According to English law, this made the two daughters Royal Princesses. They rendezvoused with other slaves who had agreed to participate in the revolt, stole horses to ride to their freedom, then broke into a store to steal guns, ammunition, food, and supplies they needed for their planned escape to Mexicowhere slavery was illegal. Some 3,500 interviews were conducted. See other search results for Joseph Vann Search for yourself and we'll build your family tree together Top record matches for Joseph Vann JOhn DANd VANn found in 1851 England Census Sometims just white folks danced; sometimes just the black folks. I don't know what dey done it for, only to be mean, and I guess they was drunk. I go to this house, you come to my house. And we learned some things about religion from an old colored preacher named Tom Vann. But later on I got a freedman's allotment up in dat part close to Coffeyville, and I lived in Coffeyville a while but I didn't like it in Kansas. Up at five o'clock and back in sometimes about de middle of de evening long before sundown, unless they was a crop to git in before it rain or something like dat. I don't remember much about my pappy's mother; but I remember she would milk for a man named Columbus Balreade and she went to prayer meeting every Wednesday night. She dye with copperas and walnut and wild indigo and things like dat and made pretty cloth. They got on the horses behind the men and went off. Those included in this collection all mention the Vanns. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. I always think of my old Master as de one dat freed me, and anyways Abraham Lincoln and none of his North people didn't look after me and buy my crop right after I was free like old Master did. I'm goin' give Lucy this black mare. 5. 1) Chief Doublehead (a rival of James Vann) 2) John Foreman a) Elizabeth Foreman m. John Elliott (white) 3) James Vann a) Sally Vann m. Evan Nicholson (white) / James Lamar (white) b.1797 F)Dawnee, described by the Moravian missionaries as a poor full blood woman, who was often drunk.She had at least 2 and maybe 3 husbands: 1) James Vann He sold one of my brothers, and one sister because they kept running off. Actually, the Assistant Principal Chief was Joseph "Tenulte" Vann, son of Avery Vann and probably a cousin of "Rich Joe" Vann. But de Big House ain't hurt cepting it need a new roof. I slept on a sliding bed. He took us back to Texas right down near where I was born at Bellview. Dere come six children; Charley, Alec, Laura, Harry Richard and Jeffy, who waS named after Jefferson Davis. Interestingly, Mrs. Vann also speaks of some time that her family spent before and during the war in Mexico. Sometimes us children would try to follow her, but she'd turn us around pretty quick and chase us back with: "Go on back to the house or the wolves get you.". After de War was over, Old Master tell me I am free but he will look out after me cause I am just a little negro and I ain't got no sense. Joseph also inherited his father's gold and deposited over $200,000 in gold in a bank in Tennessee. They'd sell 'em to folks at picnics and barbecues. They'd bring whole wagon loads of hams, chickens and cake and pie. One day young Master come to the cabins and say we all free and cant stay there lessn we want to go on working for him just like wed been, for our feed and clothes. Clarinda Vann and my aunt Maria turned the keys to the vault and commissary. Old Master tell me I was borned in November 1852, at de old home place about five miles east of Webbers Falls, mebbe kind of northeast, not far from de east bank of de Illinois River. Pappy wanted to go back to his mother when the War was over the slaves was freed. Born just after the end of the Cherokee War, he grew up in turbulent times. We had about twenty calves and I would take dem out and graze-em while some grown-up negro was grazing de cows so as to keep de cows milk. In 1840 there were 29 Vann families living in North Carolina. My husband was a Cherokee born Negro, too, and when he got mad he forgit all the English he knowed.
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